Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by antuck
Scottish Man(n) - Those were some cool vids. The REM vid must have been a lot of work but in the end worth the trouble.
I do wonder how come it jumps around from each band member so quickly? It always seems like you get about two seconds of viewing one person and then
it jumps to another person. A lot of videos I've watch are like that. And always was curious as to why that is.
huntre - If David Foster is like that , we'll keep him away! The sound stage venue looks like a very small setting. Each seat looks like it
would have a great view. Even the very small balcony has to be great seating. Plus it is close to home for me. I would love to see Aimee there,
or really any place in the Chicago area!
Thanks for the comments, the REM shoot was the final act of a 3 day music festival and we were all knackered as a crew by the time they appeared.
There's a slightly wobbly shot from my camera just behind the drummer as I bent down to accept a shot of Jagermeister from their drum tech,
GREAT GUY !!!
As for the cutting and pacing of it, well that tends to be dictated by the tempo of the music and also the level of energy onstage, in the crowd and
in the production gallery on the night. Slower numbers tend to be mixed/dissolved whilst the faster pacier stuff gets hard cut.
I tried doing a slower paced mix on a rock video I made for my friends in the first clip, tryed to make it more like watching a film by using slower
cuts, softer mixes and off the beat edits...kinda worked a wee bit...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-9180660045734292498
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I'm not in the film or video making business so, please forgive me for not using the right terms.
My biggest beef with many live shoots is the tendency of the mixer to try and hit a shot, camera by camera, on as many beats as possible. Those of you
who grew up on MTV are, by now, familiar with how tiring this can be on the eyes and mind. It does the one thing it shouldn't by distracting the
viewer from the very thing it's promoting. The music.
I prefer long, flowing shots occasionally interspersed with close-ups, either dissolved or "cold". That "Hallowed Ground"
video and the "St. Ann's" dvd had plenty of best examples on how to shoot smoothly.
That said, I won't go into wildly swinging the camera at the foot of the stage like it's the USS Enterprise under attack.
Oow. Wait. Guess I just did.
Sorry.
My point is, a video shouldn't try to be more exciting than it's subject.
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Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by huntre
My biggest beef with many live shoots is the tendency of the mixer to try and hit a shot, camera by camera, on as many beats as possible. Those of you
who grew up on MTV are, by now, familiar with how tiring this can be on the eyes and mind. It does the one thing it shouldn't by distracting the
viewer from the very thing it's promoting. The music.
I prefer long, flowing shots occasionally interspersed with close-ups, either dissolved or "cold". That "Hallowed Ground"
video and the "St. Ann's" dvd had plenty of best examples on how to shoot smoothly.
That said, I won't go into wildly swinging the camera at the foot of the stage like it's the USS Enterprise under attack.
Oow. Wait. Guess I just did.
Sorry.
My point is, a video shouldn't try to be more exciting than it's subject.
I completely agree with you Huntre, but like most artistic/musical/creative things it's all down to personal taste and in video or film,
whatever the 'hotshot' director thinks at the time. And of course working in television we generally learn to leave our personal artistic
influences at the door on the way in.
Did you see the 'Bullet and a Bible' live dvd that Green Day brought out a few years ago to record their American Idiot tour? It was so
overcut I got a headache watching it, zip cuts crash zooms, focus up's all over the place. It was like an exercise in how not to compose a
visual dialogue. Coupled with countless cuts to the director in the OB truck shouting "AWESOME!" at the top of his voice every two minutes
and you had arguably the worst parody of a 'rockumentary' since Spinal Tap, except this was for real... 
I shoot what I'm told most of the time, it's my job and it pays the rent so to speak, but given the choice I like to shoot to slower, more
interpretable stuff with a less literal agenda. If I could shoot a Sigur Ros or Emiliana Torrini promo or indeed something for Aimee, I'd be a
very happy chappie indeed.
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airzots
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Scottish Man(n) - those are some great vids! I liked your castle vid for Logan - I thought changing up your pacing worked really well for that song.
I'm also a big fan of those quick flash-dissolves, especially when mixing in some film look stuff. Was that single-cam throughout, or did you
have multiples for the indoor performance footage? You must have had a fairly good-sized lighting package to balance the daylight - even on a cloudy
day those windows would blow out the interior stuff. Sweet lighting on the CUs, btw! How many takes in the Logan live vid? I'm guessing you
either snuck the balcony shot in from a different song, or had at least a second chance to get the song with a clear stage.
"Orange Crush" is one of my fave REM songs - works great in a big venue. I guess I never noticed before how silly a quartet looks on such
a large stage - there must have been twenty feet between the guys...what a nightmare for composing shots with more than one subject. With the pace of
that song and the frantic crowd, quick cuts are perfect. The crane work, tho, is exactly what I was talking about before - it works great in small
doses for huge audience & festival stuff, but quickly begins to be about the shot rather than the performance, IMO. I say no cranes for Aimee,
unless there is also a 100-foot ferris wheel...and no David Foster anywhere. Sheesh, what a blowhard.
As for Steadicam, I'd say radio link it. It's only a filler angle and I wouldn't want to add a grip or two just to pull cables - it
would interfere with the audience & cost too much. Prolly simpler all around to just put a camera on sticks next to the board and be done with
it. Yeah, Red is a fortune all the way 'round, but I figured as long as we're dreaming...I'm serious about wanting to try shooting
something on a DSLR (Canon 5DMkII, Nikon D90 etc.) With the variety of glass available and low-light capability, some of the footage I've seen
looks absolutely amazing. Check out the HD footage on Vimeo.
huntre - I think you touched on one of the contributing factors to the downfall of music video, other than, you know, cost, lack of label support and
lack of outlets now that MTV and VH-1, etc. have gone to 'reality' programming. In order to elevate and differentiate, you started seeing
name directors getting involved, which was great for a while and then became more about the medium and less about the message. Not to pick on any in
particular because they are fantastic directors, but you started to get Spike Jonze competing with Chris Cunningham, and the focus was no longer
solely on the music. I always felt Randee St. Nicholas - who has shot some of my all-time favorite musician portraits - made the difficult transition
to video whilst seemingly keeping her ego in the background and the focus on the artist & the song. She's brilliant!
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Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by airzots
Scottish Man(n) - those are some great vids! I liked your castle vid for Logan - I thought changing up your pacing worked really well for that song.
I'm also a big fan of those quick flash-dissolves, especially when mixing in some film look stuff. Was that single-cam throughout, or did you
have multiples for the indoor performance footage? You must have had a fairly good-sized lighting package to balance the daylight - even on a cloudy
day those windows would blow out the interior stuff. Sweet lighting on the CUs, btw! How many takes in the Logan live vid? I'm guessing you
either snuck the balcony shot in from a different song, or had at least a second chance to get the song with a clear stage.
"Orange Crush" is one of my fave REM songs - works great in a big venue. I guess I never noticed before how silly a quartet looks on such
a large stage - there must have been twenty feet between the guys...what a nightmare for composing shots with more than one subject. With the pace of
that song and the frantic crowd, quick cuts are perfect. The crane work, tho, is exactly what I was talking about before - it works great in small
doses for huge audience & festival stuff, but quickly begins to be about the shot rather than the performance, IMO. I say no cranes for Aimee,
unless there is also a 100-foot ferris wheel...and no David Foster anywhere. Sheesh, what a blowhard.
As for Steadicam, I'd say radio link it. It's only a filler angle and I wouldn't want to add a grip or two just to pull cables - it
would interfere with the audience & cost too much. Prolly simpler all around to just put a camera on sticks next to the board and be done with
it. Yeah, Red is a fortune all the way 'round, but I figured as long as we're dreaming...I'm serious about wanting to try shooting
something on a DSLR (Canon 5DMkII, Nikon D90 etc.) With the variety of glass available and low-light capability, some of the footage I've seen
looks absolutely amazing. Check out the HD footage on Vimeo.
Hey Airzots,
I used two Canon XL-2 mini-DV camcorders for the Hallowed Ground shoot. One was outdoors being rigged on the crane whilst the other got to work
indoors shooting the band. We ran around 3 passes on each indivdual and a couple of wide shots. We later ran some extra stuff on the band with the
crane in that nice room, once the actress turned up for her bits.
Lighting was natural daylight through the windows with a couple of 950 watt HMI lamps and some soft bounce on the opposite side of the room to even
things out.
As for the live vid... it was all done very live with no retakes, It was an entire show featuring an acoustic 'unplugged' style set and
then a full on electric rock show from Logan which came out as a bonus dvd with an acoustic album they did a couple of years ago, the balcony shot was
a little Sony Z1 camcorder 'magic armed' onto a roof beam, which was fine until the PA company lowered one of their cabinets into the
shot, we didn't know at the time because the shot was being recorded 'unmonitored'. The other four cameras were fed through a quad
split unit to produce a four camera display on a single monitor. I directed the crew from that over radio talkback. No cue lights or live cutting and
I edited it together using a multi-camera cutting software called 'quad-cam'. The sound was recorded on 28 track, mixed down later in a
studio and given to me on a CD which I overdubbed onto the live guide track captured by the camcorder microphones.
Here's a clip from the acoustic set, not quite as cutty and I let the music determine the cut rate.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-680373062449637773
The REM shoot, yeah it was a big stage and that's ok because it gives everyone room to work without pissing off the band, REM were ok about us
but some of the 'new to fame' acts can get a bit precious about you being in their space... Kings of Leon take note ! lol.
Interesting points about DSLR shooting, a friend of mine has just bought a Nikon D90 for her stills work but has been on at me to help her explore the
HD video potential of it. Lucky me I get to try out all the latest HD broadcast equipment at work but the SLR side of things is something I must take
a look at. My own home edit system is about to go HDV with blu-ray burning so I've got lot's of experiments planned.
Oh and as for the 'dreaming' yes it's a fine thing, unfortunately it tends to end as soon as you meet the production accountant and
then the health and safety executive officer ! BOO !!! 
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huntre
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I'm still thinking about that Green Day dvd.
"Eng-Land!!" Geez. Tiresome within the first ten minutes.
Could be worse. Could be the U2 "Zoo TV" dvd. Over-the-top everything, complete with a lousy audio mix. By comparison, watch the 1987
Paris concert dvd that came with "Joshua Tree", 20th anniversary edition. No frills camera work and excellent audio.
Proof that, for the most part, simple is better.
Please, continue to hash out the details.
I'm enjoying this.
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airzots
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Ah, you gotsta love live gigs. I did a corporate gig years ago and everything was flawless on Sat. setup and Sun. run-thru. Come Mon, the city was
alive with all kinds of wireless interference that was not present on the weekend. Also had my bailout wide shot of the room become a CU on a par
after the rigger finished tweaking 'one last thing'. I really liked the XL-2, once you figured out the odd e to e quirks, it was fast, had
a decent image and was fairly cheap. I had a buddy who used Quad-Cam, I think, on the Casablanca that he took on the road. It had multiple, wildcard
source capability, yes? No timecode, but took just about any source and you kind of 'live switched' your edit.
I guess that's the beauty of shooting vid for a song - takes are only 3-4 min, so you can bang thru quite a few in a day, with only a little
tweaking in between. I figured HMIs, but didn't know your budget - also could've been 1K to 5Ks w/ gels and at least one pass of scrim on
the windows, depending on amount of daylight. Did you light the B&W CUs with instruments or use the windows? There was some shine, but also some
great highlights - nice look! On the live vid, did you have any sync issues with the board audio? I've had DV footage vary wildly from DAT audio
of the same content.
I must say, I really like this new clip you shared! I like the pacing and, excepting the mostly crowd wide shot, the shot selections are great - your
guitar cam got you some really nice angles. That's the stuff I like, when you can really see what the musician is doing - in relation to the
others on stage.
Under the banner of 'simpler is better', take a look at a wonderful low-tech video. One camera, hand-held (okay, kind of wobbly, but
I'm guessing it was all the temptations about) and the band is performing the song live to tape. From an odd backroom in an Irish pub - talk
about a great location in which to shoot! Can anyone 'splain that tiny back room to me? Was that an old separate the women from the men thing?
Anyway, here's Lisa Hannigan and band, doing "I Don't Know"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WwaPv1rZiQ
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antuck
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Some great vids Scottish Man(n). If I wasn't getting out of my metal stages, I would have a new band to follow. I really liked the acoustic
video. Some really good camera shots in that video. Moved very well. I didn't have that roller coaster ride effect. The music video was nice
also. There was a real good flow to it. The castle looked really cool.
Which do you like shooting better, live or a music video? Seems like live would be tough because you have one shot to film. No chance for a mistake.
A music video you can make several retakes but I could see that getting frustrating if a scene is not going well. Or is it, grab a camera and your
happy?
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airzots
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Tho that's directed more at Scottish Man(n) than me, I'm not shy...
For me they both have their 'wake you up at 3am aspects', to be sure. I EP'd the MDA telethon about ten years ago in the Mpls/St.
Paul market, so I managed the client, the production teams, the casino host site & their teams, the on-air talent - basically made sure that
everyone got their stuff done so we had pictures beaming out into space for about 15 minutes every hour (at random times, but that's another
story...) After debriefing a few of our live local fund-raiser segments and waiting for the next cue from Las Vegas, I was in the truck chatting with
the Director, who did around a hundred live gigs a year - primarily sports. I said, I don't know how you handle the pressure of a live gig every
day. He laughed and said the same thing about the corporate stuff I did. I asked why, and he said "If I miss a shot in a game, it goes over the
air and a million, sometimes a lot more, people might catch it, might not but there's no going back to try to fix it. It's over and I move
on. I don't lie awake at night wondering if I have enough time tomorrow to move the schedule around to work in another take on what went wrong
today. Every day is new, whereas you are on the project from its inception until it's done and distributed." I agreed, to a point,
'cuz there ain't no pressure like 'live' pressure. You can either hack it or you can't, there isn't much gray
area. The punchline to an insider joke - "Ready when you are, C.B." usually comes up over beers when the gig is done and it always gets a
laugh - except from the butt of the joke...
I s'pose it depends on your role too. I remember my shooter days very fondly (except for the ever-present sore should/lower back/right hip - eh,
Scottish Man(n) There was a certain kind of peace in asking questions instead of answering them - not to say there isn't pressure in every
role, there is. There ain't no hiding on any gig, and getting screamed at over headset is never fun (I am not a screamer, I'll
state that plainly right now. I may sigh heavily and not call that camera for a while, but I never yell at the team - never could figure out why
anyone did, but boy some sure do...) But there is a certain amount of peace in asking your call time, showing up and getting to it that doesn't
exist when you're responsible for the whole gig - you're never away from it.
My last two live gigs were a 3-day fashion show - stage manager - and a 3-day sales meeting - Producer/Director/Technical Director/Lighting/PowerPoint
& Tape feeds - basically everything except I had two cam ops & an audio guy. I really enjoyed both, for different reasons. As Stage Mgr, it
was great to fold the mic up on the headset and be told who to find & prep to go out next. The other gig, it was fun to call and execute a show -
switched live to the room and webstream, captured to tape. Completely different, both fun. My first boss nailed it when he said, "When it stops
being fun get out and go do something else, because it's way too hard if it's just a job."
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antuck
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Well airzots I haven't notice you be shy yet so glad to see you're not going to start now 
Interesting stories. I could see where both can be a real pain. Like you mentioned miss a live shot and a million people may notice, but life goes
on. Soon most will forget what happened, except the upper bosses may let you know.
But I also can see the other part where if a shot gets missed, having to readjust a schedule to re-shot would be equally a pain. Also doing the same
part over and over I would imagine gets old.
As far as the screamers go, I guess that is in every profession. For some reason people feel the only way to be heard or get things done is to yell.
When I was a bit younger and amp'd with energy, I use to yell a lot. Then I figured out it doesn't matter. Most times it is better to
try and figure and alt route to take.
Now either can answer this. Is film or tape still used these days? I figured that with everything digital, what was being captured might go directly
to a server of some sort. Seems that might be a better way to store and edit what was recorded. I figure eventually it needs to get to a computer.
Also, when your shooting live, are all the cameras running all the time? And when the director decides he want a shot they just go to the camera.
Or does each camera just give a feed and when the director wants that shot the camera goes live at that point?
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Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by huntre
Could be the U2 "Zoo TV" dvd. Over-the-top everything, complete with a lousy audio mix. By comparison, watch the 1987 Paris concert dvd
that came with "Joshua Tree", 20th anniversary edition. No frills camera work and excellent audio.
Proof that, for the most part, simple is better.
Please, continue to hash out the details.
I'm enjoying this.
That entire tour was somewhat over the top wasn't it ? Massive stages, Trabant cars and Bono as MacPhisto... I went to a couple of those shows
and thoroughly enjoyed them, oh the irony...x
The Joshua Tree was probably the last decent U2 record before the 're-invention' and the music perfectly suited Anton Corbijn's big
wide landscape photography on the record sleeve. It's always been interesting to me the way music can inspire visuals, the best music usually
does. The 1987 footage doesn't surprise me, they kept is simple and simple is usually best. Let the performance do the talking and let it unfold
I guess... I bought the newly remastered 'Under A Blood Red Sky' dvd the other day, U2 live at Red Rocks, Denver Colorado in 1983, and one
of about three live concert videos I rate as the best. 'Stop Making Sense' and 'The Last Waltz' being the other two.
U2 released something like three different videos for 'One' from Achtung Baby, one of them was the Buffalo footage put together by a New
York video 'artiste', another was a fairly bog standard 'rawk' video by Phil Joanou who also directed the Rattle and Hum
documentary, but the best one was the Anton Corbijn produced 'drag act' cut which IMHO really brought out the best in the band, you could
see the close relationship he has (and still has) with U2. The photography on their new record shows that relationship too and is very good indeed.
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Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by antuck
Some great vids Scottish Man(n). If I wasn't getting out of my metal stages, I would have a new band to follow. I really liked the acoustic
video. Some really good camera shots in that video. Moved very well. I didn't have that roller coaster ride effect. The music video was nice
also. There was a real good flow to it. The castle looked really cool.
Which do you like shooting better, live or a music video? Seems like live would be tough because you have one shot to film. No chance for a mistake.
A music video you can make several retakes but I could see that getting frustrating if a scene is not going well. Or is it, grab a camera and your
happy?
Thanks again for your comments... Er... I don't prefer one or the other, I like the variety my job offers. Shooting live is an adrenalin rush
and there's no going back on the night for retakes, I've always enjoyed being onstage with bands, I used to play in bands when I was
younger and shooting live music keeps me in touch with how that used to feel.
Shooting a promo is entirely different but equally enjoyable and challenging. I get to control the situation and talk to people about what's
going on. It's a very sociable experience, and hey I like talking with people, exchanging ideas and trying to get the best out of a situation.
That said, they tend to be very long days and quite taxing on the old grey matter, but I wouldn't swap it for anything.
Hey man, don't give up those metal roots, they're essential dude !! lol
Here's another take on Logan by me. A rock band doing an acoustic track and this time it's a promo. I tried to make it photographic with
moving images, monochromed and laid back, I hope you like it...
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3392416551682829383
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Scottish Man(n)
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Originally posted by airzots
I asked why, and he said "If I miss a shot in a game, it goes over the air and a million, sometimes a lot more, people might catch it, might not
but there's no going back to try to fix it. It's over and I move on. I don't lie awake at night wondering if I have enough time
tomorrow to move the schedule around to work in another take on what went wrong today. Every day is new, whereas you are on the project from its
inception until it's done and distributed." I agreed, to a point, 'cuz there ain't no pressure like 'live'
pressure. You can either hack it or you can't,
I'm with the director guy on this... If I miss a shot or they cut me on air whilst doing a repo or whatever, I tend not to worry about it. Some
people chew themselves up with worry but my view is that it's just a game and nobody gets killed.
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antuck
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quote:
Originally posted by Scottish Man(n)
quote:
Originally posted by antuck
Some great vids Scottish Man(n). If I wasn't getting out of my metal stages, I would have a new band to follow. I really liked the acoustic
video. Some really good camera shots in that video. Moved very well. I didn't have that roller coaster ride effect. The music video was nice
also. There was a real good flow to it. The castle looked really cool.
Which do you like shooting better, live or a music video? Seems like live would be tough because you have one shot to film. No chance for a mistake.
A music video you can make several retakes but I could see that getting frustrating if a scene is not going well. Or is it, grab a camera and your
happy?
Thanks again for your comments... Er... I don't prefer one or the other, I like the variety my job offers. Shooting live is an adrenalin rush
and there's no going back on the night for retakes, I've always enjoyed being onstage with bands, I used to play in bands when I was
younger and shooting live music keeps me in touch with how that used to feel.
Shooting a promo is entirely different but equally enjoyable and challenging. I get to control the situation and talk to people about what's
going on. It's a very sociable experience, and hey I like talking with people, exchanging ideas and trying to get the best out of a situation.
That said, they tend to be very long days and quite taxing on the old grey matter, but I wouldn't swap it for anything.
Hey man, don't give up those metal roots, they're essential dude !! lol
Here's another take on Logan by me. A rock band doing an acoustic track and this time it's a promo. I tried to make it photographic with
moving images, monochromed and laid back, I hope you like it...
x
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3392416551682829383
That's cool you found something to keep you close to music. Doing something you enjoy is way better then doing something you have to do.
Hopefully most bands are fun to deal with. And not pushing there egos onto you. I'll bet some are real premaddonnas and other greatfull your
there taping them.
I suppose you never really give up the metal roots. I just don't bring them out as often. But it still is good to have a head baggin session
every once in a while. Clear the ear drums out
Logan does some real good acoustic stuff. I haven't heard of them till you posted. Have they released in the states yet? I might have to give
them a look.
Re-watched the Austin City Limts show with Aimee and Iron & Wine last night. That was a great taping and awsome show. The video flowed very
nicely. Moving around at just the right tempo. I'm sure it didn't hurt that both bands were top notch. I would love to see what the
whole show was. The show as I watched was an hour long. Half hour to each band.
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Scottish Man(n)
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That's cool you found something to keep you close to music. Doing something you enjoy is way better then doing something you have to do.
Hopefully most bands are fun to deal with. And not pushing there egos onto you. I'll bet some are real premaddonnas and other greatfull your
there taping them.
I suppose you never really give up the metal roots. I just don't bring them out as often. But it still is good to have a head baggin session
every once in a while. Clear the ear drums out
Logan does some real good acoustic stuff. I haven't heard of them till you posted. Have they released in the states yet? I might have to give
them a look.
Re-watched the Austin City Limts show with Aimee and Iron & Wine last night. That was a great taping and awsome show. The video flowed very
nicely. Moving around at just the right tempo. I'm sure it didn't hurt that both bands were top notch. I would love to see what the
whole show was. The show as I watched was an hour long. Half hour to each band.
Oh trust me when I say you meet plenty of primadonna a-holes in the music business. Sometime it's the artists, more often it's the gits
that they surround themselves with. The best times are when I work with a band or musician that A: I actually listen to as a fan, B: Are nice
people in reality and C: engage with you a bit during the coverage.
Over the years the people I enjoyed working with the most were Radiohead, Red Hot Chili's, The Who, Elvis Costello and 'top bloke'
award in my experience goes to Peter Hook from New Order.
The 'a-hole prizes' can be handed out to the Oasis road crew, Brett Anderson from Suede and James-Dean Bradfield of Manic Street Preachers
who encouraged the crowd to throw things at the camera-crew after he'd had a run in with the papparazzi the previous week. Stupid boy ! 
As for Logan, they're friends of mine and local boys. My cousin Mick plays guitar in the band. They are doing OK in a small way stateside. They
supported Bon Jovi last summer and have done two European tours with Alterbridge, I went on the bus for one of those to take pictures and sell the
merch, great fun. They are 'supposedly' touring the US this summer with Velvet Revolver, I'm still not sure if that's actually
happening yet but we'll see.
They were in LA for a video shoot in November and played a couple of shows at The Roxy, which seemed to be quite successful. I daresay you'll be
hearing about them soon.
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airzots
That's Just What You Are
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Registered 5-12-2008 Location minneapolis Member Is Offline Mood: bright-eyed
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Originally posted by Scottish Man(n)
Here's another take on Logan by me. A rock band doing an acoustic track and this time it's a promo. I tried to make it photographic with
moving images, monochromed and laid back, I hope you like it...
x
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3392416551682829383
That is a sweet video! Great locations, nice transitions and the pacing is perfect for that song. Plus, I'm a sucker for walking shots in
slo-mo...great job!
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Scottish Man(n)
Fifty Posts After the Fair
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Registered 8-19-2008 Location Paisley, Scotland UK Member Is Offline Mood: Home again for
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quote:
That is a sweet video! Great locations, nice transitions and the pacing is perfect for that song. Plus, I'm a sucker for walking shots in
slo-mo...great job!
Thanks again,
Funnily enough there was no real plan with that one, we just drove out to Loch Lomond, found a couple of spots and went for it. The band had a vague
notion that it should look a bit 'Blair Witch' and there was an old Temple Of The Dog video the bass player liked which lent a slight
influence to the coverage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4UjJFIGLeM
The singer is miming to playback through his celluar phone, tucked into his jacket pocket. Doofus here forgot to pick up the CD player.
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airzots
That's Just What You Are
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Anything that can go wrong...
XL-2 again? I guess I haven't seen footage from those cameras with the chroma knocked out - looks pretty sharp even thru YouTube UK's
filtering.
ScottishMan(n) - check your U2U msgs, I sent you a couple of D90 links to start your DSLR research...
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Scottish Man(n)
Fifty Posts After the Fair
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Registered 8-19-2008 Location Paisley, Scotland UK Member Is Offline Mood: Home again for
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Originally posted by airzots
Anything that can go wrong...
XL-2 again? I guess I haven't seen footage from those cameras with the chroma knocked out - looks pretty sharp even thru YouTube UK's
filtering.
ScottishMan(n) - check your U2U msgs, I sent you a couple of D90 links to start your DSLR research...
Yeah XL-2 shooting in progressive, I knocked the chroma down in the edit.
Thanks for the links, I'll check that out later, just heading out the door now to attend a friends 40th birthday. Thanks again folks for the
kind words !
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Just found this HD clip of 'The Moth' Live from the St Ann's Warehouse. Two flavors 480p and 720p. The 720p is really nice. And
SINCE Aimee at this point appears to be only playing the East Coast, this is the next best thing to seeing her live . I really like this version of
'The Moth' Very clear picture!
Now in the credits, it says that this was shot in HD. I wonder then if they will ever release the HD or Blu-Ray version. Or if they have a 1080p
flavor.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/aimeemannlivestanns.html
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alexamae
Say Anything
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I like it..Hope she'll have another live tour by next year.
Regards,
Alexa Mae
Pret travaux
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MrHyde
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Dude, can you please stop with the spam? Seriously, it's obvious when you create a new user name every time.
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Bad Spinach
Lost in Space 
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Yeah this guy (?) keeps posting in old threads to get his spam link in. The one I thought was really cute was when he posted in the "My Top 10
of 2008" thread and took 10 shows at random from the original poster's list. At least he's working at it a little.
I feel a disturbance in the force!
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Originally posted by Bad Spinach
Yeah this guy (?) keeps posting in old threads to get his spam link in. The one I thought was really cute was when he posted in the "My Top 10
of 2008" thread and took 10 shows at random from the original poster's list. At least he's working at it a little.
I know. I fucking hate those posts. He can go work at it somewhere else; I suggest Hell.
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ashleycolt
Say Anything
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Simulation pret immobilier
I'd like to see Aimee go acoustic for an intimate performance of her songs in front of a small group of fans. Shoot a couple of nights worth and
pick out the highlights.
The same folks who worked on the "St Ann's" dvd would do it justice.
Just a notion.
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